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Frequently Asked Questions
We've been doing this a while, so we are happy to pass along some of the things we have learned along the way.
If your question isn't answered below, don't hesitate to reach out to us. That's why we're here!
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Does Ceiba have a package that offers everything?We sure do! We call it our Whole Shabang! package. This package will get your oars in the water. We provide you with everything you will need and then some. This is your vacation so let us do the work for you.
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How much does a typical Ceiba trip cost?Send us an email or give us a call, as we are happy to put together an estimate to meet your groups’ needs. The cost will vary depending on what you choose, the number of days and people. Check out our Rafts, Frames, Oars & Paddles, Parts and Pieces and Whole Shabang! package to see our costs. Included in the initial costs for Whole Shabang! packages is a refundable damage deposit; $500 for row trips and $1500 for motor trips. Learn more about Ceiba's Whole Shabang Complete Package.
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What is the initial cost to secure what I need for my trip?We ask for 10% of the estimated cost of your trip in order to reserve your gear and secure it on our schedule. Click here for updates on COVID-19 Policy.
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What are the remaining payment deadlines?- 60 days prior to launch date 50% of your estimated total is due - 30 days prior to launch date full payment is due **We will work with your group to meet your needs. We are very flexible with payments although full payment is required prior to your launch day.**We recommend collecting more than you expect to spend from your group. This will be insurance in case any group gear is damaged or lost. This will save you a headache in the end!
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How can I pay for my trip?We accept cash, check and/or credit card – MasterCard, Visa or Discover Card. We will also take American Express, however there is a 3% processing fee.
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How can I save money on my Grand Canyon trip?For starters if you do the Whole Shabang! package you will start by saving 10% off all rental equipment. You can also save an additional 5% by joining Grand Canyon Private Boaters Association and/or Grand Canyon River Guides Association. If you or someone from your party joins both groups you can save up to 10% on top of the 10% savings with the Whole Shabang! Give us a call and we can discuss other ways to cut corners. We are happy to help!
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What if I have to cancel my trip?Cancellations must be in writing and received by Ceiba: Prior to 60 days from launch payments will be refunded to the trip leader less a 3% administration fee of the subtotal due for the trip. Between 60-31 days prior to launch payments will be refunded to the trip leader less the foodpack fee, and a 3% administration fee of the subtotal due for the trip. Between 30-15 days prior to launch 50% of the subtotal due for the trip will be refunded to the trip leader or organizer. Within 15 days prior to launch, if your reservation is cancelled, the only available refund will be for any shuttles not taken and Hualapai fees (if applicable). Individuals Cancelling: In order to be refunded, an individual who can no longer go on the trip must submit to Ceiba written approval from the trip leader or organizer. Damaged Goods: You are responsible for any loss or damage to Ceiba's Equipment. We require that a copy of your credit card be kept on file by Ceiba for the duration of your trip. If loss or damage occurs, you will either be charged the cost of replacement, or $60/hour for repairable damage.
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Should I get trip insurance?Ceiba Adventures recommends that you purchase a travel protection plan to help protect you and your travel investment against the unexpected. For more information on available plans or to enroll, go to travelexinsurance.com or contact Travelex Insurance Services at 800-228-9792 and reference location number 03-0185. Travel Insurance is underwritten by, Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance Company, NAIC #22276. W20
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What is Ceiba’s policy if I damage or lose gear?An appropriate fully refundable damage deposit will be added to most trip invoices. For example, Whole Shabang row trips include a $500 deposit and motor trips include a $1,500 deposit. You are responsible for any loss or damage to the equipment. A rate of $60 / hour will be charged to you for repairable damage, or you will be charged the cost of replacement. Depending on the exact damage, an additional administrative fee will apply.
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Who is Ceiba?Ceiba Adventures, Inc is a team of enthusiastic & dedicated outdoors people ranging from commercial river guides, private boaters, mountain bikers, skiers, and hikers to big time dog lovers! Owners Scott Davis and Rachel Schmidt head up the crew and are thoroughly involved with all of Ceiba’s daily tasks, no matter how big or small. Rachel and Scott are 40+ year veteran river guides with a combined 360 plus trips through Grand Canyon. Their experience, knowledge and love of Grand Canyon are the foundation of Ceiba Adventures' success.
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Who works for Ceiba?All of our employees are avid boaters - commercial guides and private boaters, mountain bikers, skiers, hikers and big time dog lovers! All of our vetted sub-contractors are as passionate about what they do as well. The Ceiba family thrives on fun, dedication and excitement. Be sure to chat with us about anything involving river running, bike riding, the Colorado Plateau and four legged furry friends. You can see us here.
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Why should you and your group utilize Ceiba’s services?Customer satisfaction is our number one priority at Ceiba! Our equipment is top-notch and maintained in excellent shape. We pride ourselves on paying close attention to detail. We have been organizing, outfitting, orchestrating, planning and participating in river adventures for over 40 years. There is no substitute for experience. Ceiba will ALWAYS stand behind our commitment to you and your group.
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What does Ceiba mean?The choice of the name is in honor of the name of the sacred tree of life to the Maya people of Central America. The Ceiba tree is a Kapok soft wooded tree that can grow to be over 200’ tall. Although it is not related to Grand Canyon we feel it is a wonderful representation of what Ceiba is all about! Be sure to check out our “About” page which includes additional history of Ceiba Adventures.
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How in the heck do you pronounce Ceiba?Try ”Say-buh.” The “ba” is pronounced as if you were saying, “bug", but stop short of the “g.” SAY-BUH. Now say this 10 times, really fast!
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Who will I work with to plan my trip?You will be working with a few different people throughout the planning of your Grand Adventure. Our veteran Ceiba office staff and food guru will help you plan logistics and menus. Anyone in the office can answer any questions you may have. Just ask! We are ALWAYS eager to work with you and answer any questions or concerns. 928.527.0171 or ceiba@ceibaadventures.com
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How many people can I bring on the river?A small Grand Canyon private river permit will allow you to bring 8 people where as a standard permit is good for up to 16 people. Of course it is up to you how many you would like to bring as long as it does not exceed the accepted limit based on the permit you received.
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How will I know what to bring on the river?We can provide you with a basic necessities list that outlines what items to bring: Personal Gear List. The National Park also has a list of required gear and the River Permit Office should mail the NPS packet to you once you have secured your permit. Ceiba’s price quote sheet will also outline the NPS required equipment. If you find yourself a bit confused filling out your Noncommercial River Permit Application, here is a helpful document.
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Can I ship personal gear to Ceiba before my trip?Absolutely! Ceiba can store your gear for your trip. When shipping anything to Ceiba, you must include the following on the shipping label in large lettering: Trip Leader Name and Launch Date Your name Ceiba Adventures 3051 N Fanning Drive Flagstaff, AZ 86004
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Does Ceiba rent dry suits?We do not rent dry suits, but recommend a few places that do: Olympic Outdoor Center, Pacific River Supply, Kayak Academy or Immersion Research. They will all ship directly to Ceiba so that you can pick them up directly here and minimize the number of rental days you are charged.
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Does Ceiba rent bimini tops, sit-on-top kayaks, or trailers?"We rent standard 6 foot umbrellas. We do not rent Bimini tops. We rent inflatable kayaks. We do not rent hardshell sit-on-top kayaks. We recommend U-Haul for trailer rentals. We do not rent trailers.
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Can I ship a kayak to Ceiba if I can't drive it there myself?Yes. There are multiple options for shipping a boat when bringing it yourself isn’t an option. Some options such as flying with it or shipping it through the usual sources such as the US Postal Service or FedEx can be quite expensive… several hundred dollars. The following sources might be quite a bit cheaper so check them out! Kayak Shipping Made Easy: This will be your best bet. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1007184526005996 Go Greyhound! Greyhound will ship your boat for you for pretty darn cheap and fast too! The boat must have dimensions no greater than: 29” x 47” x 82” (which limits it to smaller play boats) and a weight less than 100 pounds. Greyhound prefers your boat be in a box. Check with USPS, UHaul, or other shipping companies for the correct box size. www.shipgreyhound.com Forward Air: Typically Forward Air will encourage you to ship your boat by ground transportation. You must call first. They will ask you to take it to a Service Center, usually at an airport, where they will measure it. A typical whitewater kayak weighs about 44 pounds and fits in a box 9’ x 2' x 2’ would arrive in about 4 business days. You must pay using a money order or certified check. www.forwardair.com Pilot Air: This shipping company can ship your kayak but it seems to cost about as much as USPS or FedEx. www.pilotdelivers.com US Postal Service:http://postcalc.usps.com/ FedEx:https://www.fedex.com/ratefinder/home?cc=US&language=en&locId=express Mountain Buzz is an excellent website for resources and information. It is an Internet community of whitewater boaters and outdoor enthusiasts. Mountain Buzz hosts an online forum for you to ask questions and see what resources other boaters have discovered. www.mountainbuzz.com If you have experience in shipping kayaks or large river equipment, please let us know especially what kind of experiences you have had with the above resources! Happy Shipping!
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What information do you have about self-support kayak trips?We are experts at outfitting self-support kayak trips. We know these are not the normal trips and that your experience level is usually quite high. However, there are a standard set of questions paddlers usually ask us about requirements for trips through the Canyon. Here is some info for you.
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Does Ceiba get involved in my NPS Permit Application?Ceiba does not get involved with any of your NPS permitting procedures. You NPS Permit log in page is here. Here is a bit of info on our equipment that you will need when filling out your permit details:
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I don't have much whitewater experience, how can I learn how to row?Whitewater Rafting Clinics If you are looking for rowing instruction to prepare for your Grand Canyon trip, Ace Adventure www.aceraft.com offers rowing clinics on class III and IV+ whitewater on the New River in West Virginia. All of the instructors are certified by the American Canoe Association (ACA) and have been commercial guides throughout the U.S. and the world in addition to participating in private trips in Grand Canyon. The ACA curriculum covers everything from rowing techniques and principles, rigging a raft, to righting a flipped gear boat, etc. and lasts at least 16 hours. The New River is a high-volume river with rapids similar in style to those you will find in Grand Canyon. For those of you on the East Coast it is centrally located to many of the major cities with Washington D.C., Detroit, Indianapolis, Atlanta, and Nashville being 7 hours away or less. ***************************************************** L4 ACA WHITEWATER RAFTING (OAR) https://aceraft.com/product/aca-whitewater-rafting-oar-l4/ The L4 Whitewater Rafting (Oar) course is for individuals interested in learning the skills required to efficiently row a raft on rivers with class I-III rapids. This course includes advanced river reading, safety considerations, and rowing techniques. In addition, the skills required to captain, or guide, an oar raft in class I-III rapids will be introduced. ***************************************************** L5 ACA WHITEWATER RAFTING (OAR) https://aceraft.com/product/aca-whitewater-rafting-oar-l5/ The L5 Advanced Whitewater Rafting (Oar) course is designed to refine and expand judgment, decision making and techniques of advanced oarsmen on class III to IV whitewater. Advanced techniques include, but are not limited to advanced rowing, boat control, high water techniques and technical river running as appropriate to the site. This course will use on-the-water scenarios to assess risk, evaluate rapid features and complexities, develop strategies, and nurture good judgment. The course will emphasize the use of proactive, aggressive rescue skills stressing self-reliance. This course should only be taken by those with SWR experience and self-rescue skills. Participation in a SWR course within the last three years is strongly recommended. If you are interested in more information, please feel free to reach out directly to Kevin Terrell, River Operations Manager (kevin@aceraft.com) or co-manager Bryant Baker (bbaker@aceraft.com). (304) 719-6930
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Why should I choose Ceiba’s food pack service?Not only will you have delicious food options to choose from, but you can also guarantee that we will pay considerable attention to detail when packing your food. We are flexible and easy to work with when it comes to food preferences and allergies. Our food guru will go above and beyond to accommodate your specific food needs. We provide delicious, healthy and creative menus for your Grand Canyon experience. We want to ensure that you are getting all of the nutrients that you need, along with the flavor to make it yummy!
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What is included in a Ceiba food pack?When planning your menu, our food guru will work with you on choosing the best menu options for your group. We pride ourselves on being flexible and want to ensure that you get exactly what your group needs. We are happy to accommodate any special dietary needs such as allergies, vegetarian/vegan, gluten and lactose free food issues.
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What are the menu options?We have many different menu options. From the Hiker Special and BBQ Extravaganza, to our Ready Made Meals-you name it, we’ve got it! At Ceiba we offer lots of yummy options. Please see our menu options under Food and Menus on our website.
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When do I have to decide on my menu choices?6 weeks prior to launch date menu choices are due 30 days prior to launch date we will finalize menu details 3 weeks prior to launch date final participant numbers **We recommend beginning menu discussions at least two months prior to your launch date. This will enable you to have an idea of participants’ preferences, allergies and must haves!
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Does Ceiba have any pre-cooked menu options?Yes! Ceiba has a ready-made menu that features pre-cooked dinner entrees in boil bags. A local chef in Flagstaff has prepared these fast, easy and delicious meals. These quick and easy options are great for folks that would rather be hiking than in the kitchen!
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Will it cost more to have a vegetarian, vegan or gluten free menu?"For the most part it will not. We are happy to make accommodations for dietary needs and work it into whichever menu is chosen. If there are many folks who have these needs the cost may go up but typically with a couple special diets the menu costs will stay the same.
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How much booze can I bring and where do I store it?The bottom line is that if you want it to fit, it will fit. The amount of beer, wine & spirits you bring is a very personal decision. Once you have decided how many boats you are taking, you will have a better idea of space. We recommend chatting with your group to see how many canned beverages each person would like to have (sodas, beer, etc) per day. Keep in mind that hard alcohol takes up much less space, but you want to avoid glass bottles. We recommend buying spirits in plastic bottles or transferring the liquid into other plastic bottles. There will be space in the front and back hatches for cans and bottles. If you are bringing personal dry boxes or ammo cans these are good options as well. If you decide to bring glass we can rent you a 20-mil ammo can and pad the inside so the glass does not break. You can order booze here.
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Where can I get booze in Flagstaff?Beaver Street Liquor will have all the beer, wine and spirits you're looking for. They can accommodate any custom order and will deliver to Ceiba at no charge.
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What type of vehicles does Ceiba use?Ceiba’s late model Ford & Dodge 4x4 trucks are all quad cab trucks that can accommodate 4-5 passengers with seat belts. Our 5th wheel trailers are flat bed style with removable cages on the front to hold all the loose river gear. Our trucks and trailers are extremely versatile, allowing Ceiba to be the only private outfitter to move a 37’ s-rig motorboat inflated. We can haul a dory and/or a fully rigged 18’ oar boat, or carry up to ten rafts at a time.
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How will my gear get to Lees Ferry?Typically, Ceiba will shuttle your gear to Lees Ferry with a truck and trailer that has room for 4-5 passengers if needed.
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Can Ceiba shuttle personal vehicles?We can provide shuttle drivers to move your vehicle from Lee’s Ferry to Flagstaff, to your designated take-out, or to and from the South Rim. Take a look at the details here.
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Where can I park my personal vehicle during the trip?Several options here: Ceiba's warehouse facility has a secure parking area. $3/day per vehicle or $5/day per vehicle w/ trailer. We offer a discount for parking if you pay with cash! Contact us for details. Lees Ferry offers free parking in their long-term lot if that works out with your groups’ logistics. A few hotels in Flagstaff offer free parking if you are staying there before or after the trip.
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What is the best shuttle option for my group?This will vary from group to group. Arranging shuttles can be one of the most challenging parts to organizing a Grand Canyon trip. We are happy to support your groups’ needs and provide you with the option that best suits your situation. Some information that is helpful to know: Where is the majority of your group driving from? What shuttle portion do you think you'll need? Just from Lees Ferry to Flagstaff? Lees Ferry to the take out?
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What are the drive times for Grand Canyon shuttles?Flagstaff to Lees Ferry: 2.5 hours (129 miles) Diamond Creek to Flagstaff: 3.5 hours (one hour on Diamond Creek Rd.) (135 miles) Pearce Ferry/South Cove to Flagstaff: 4.5 hours (135 miles) Flagstaff / South Rim: 1.5 hours (77 miles)
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Why are shuttles so expensive?At Ceiba, we make certain that our drivers are professional, well trained, insured, and compensated well for their hard work. We believe our shuttle drivers are one of the key ingredients to a successful Grand Canyon trip. Therefore, we hire top- notch, qualified drivers that we know will take care of you!!!!! Not only do we hire great drivers, but we also have top of the line, reliable trucks, trailers and vans that we service and maintain on a daily basis.
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How do rising fuel costs affect our shuttles?Unfortunately if fuel costs rise, Ceiba prices will go up as well.
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What happens if Diamond Creek road closes due to flash floods?First and foremost, stay calm! If Diamond Creek flash floods it is not the end of the world. It has happened before and it will happen again. Monsoon storms in July & August can trigger a flash flood as well as winter storms. One thing to keep in mind is whether or not it has been raining hard a few days before your take out. If that is the case, it is advisable to call Ceiba a day or so before your take out date to check in on the status of the road. The sooner we hear from you, the sooner we can move to plan B - another good reason to have a satellite phone! The biggest thing to remember is that each situation is unique. Once again, being calm and flexible can really make a challenging situation turn out a-ok! Remember, we are here to help!
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Where should I stay the night before rig day?If you are planning on being in Flagstaff the night before your rig day (the day before your launch date) we recommend that you stay at Hotel Aspen Flagstaff. This hotel is within walking distance of downtown and offers discounted rates for Ceiba clients.
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When do we meet at Ceiba and go to Lees Ferry to rig?Typically we will meet customers around 9 am at Ceiba in Flagstaff the morning of rig day. However, the location may vary depending on the logistics of the participants (ie. trip participants driving themselves to Lees Ferry and then having vehicles shuttled to Flagstaff). Your group and gear will then head to Lees Ferry. We shoot for arriving at the Ferry sometime between noon and 2:00 pm, allowing your group enough time to rig boats and become familiar with all of the equipment before dark.
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Will someone from Ceiba be there to help us rig our boats?If your gear is both rented from Ceiba and transported to Lees Ferry by us, a put-in consultant will show you how the Ceiba system works. This consultant will work with you as long as necessary to ensure that you and your group have an understanding of all our systems. The Ceiba consultant will also make sure that you and your group are all set with the NPS non-commercial regulations and ranger.
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What kinds of facilities are at Lees Ferry?There is a bathroom, pay phone, drinking water and recycling/trash dumpsters. Sorry, no showers.
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Is there cell phone service at Lees Ferry?Cell phone service has improved over the years, depending on your carrier. Texting works best.
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Can I find last minute supplies near Lees Ferry?Just a 15-minute ride from Lees Ferry, Marble Canyon Lodge has a fully stocked store with last minute or forgotten river items. From river guides/maps to neoprene booties, you can find all of your overlooked goodies that you will need for your expedition. There is also lodging, a restaurant and a convenience store with gas.
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Where do I camp at Lees Ferry?Sleeping, camping and/or overnight parking is not allowed on the launch ramp. There are two designated group camping sites located 100 yards down stream from the launch ramp on river right. If you arrive before your rig date you can camp in the formal campgrounds for a fee at Lees Ferry.
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What are the Park requirements for Noncommercial River Trips?General Requirements Complete Noncommercial River Trip Regulations If you find yourself a bit confused filling out your Noncommercial River Permit Application, here is a helpful document.
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Do you have a required equipment cheat sheet to use as a reference?See the following list extracted from NPS Noncommercial River Trip Regulations: Summary of Required Paperwork & Equipment. If you find yourself a bit confused filling out your Noncommercial River Permit Application, here is a helpful document.
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When will the ranger check out our required gear?This usually happens around 3:00 or 4:00 pm on your rig day. The ranger will want to see the permitee’s paperwork, including a complete group participation list. Your Ceiba consultant will help facilitate this process.
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When will orientation begin?The orientation begins at 9 am sharp the morning of your launch day. At this time everyone will need to be present and have his or her photo I.D. ready. The orientation generally happens at your camp or under the shade structure on the ramp and typically lasts about an hour. Be sure to remind everyone in your group to bring their photo I.D.!
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What do I need for the orientation when being checked out by the NPS ranger?The following 4 items are necessary in order to launch. The ranger will not allow your trip to launch without them: Photo ID for each participant - current valid, unaltered, government issued photo identification that includes date of birth - i.e. driver license, state issued identification, or passport. Foreign visitors need a passport (a foreign drivers license will NOT work). NPS River Permit - a printed copy NPS Participant List - a printed copy Noncommercial River Trip Regulations - a printed copy (Ceiba supplies this in the Major First Aid Kit)
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When we will get on the river?Once you are done with the ranger orientation, you are good to go! Typically around 10:30 – 11:30 AM.
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What kind of boats does Ceiba rent?We rent 18’, 16’ and 14’ NRS self-bailing boats. Ceiba is also the exclusive rental outfitter who provide motors and complete motor boats for your trip.
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Why does Ceiba recommend 18’ boats for Grand Canyon trips?We believe that 18’ boats are the perfect option for carrying all of the equipment you will need for a Grand Canyon expedition.
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How many rafts should we bring?For a standard 16 person / 16 day trip we recommend five to six 18’NRS boats. If you have personal boats as well, but need several Ceiba boats to carry additional gear we will work with you to decide what is the best number of boats for your trip.
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How many people can fit in a Ceiba oar boat?An 18’ NRS raft can fit a total of 4 people, including boatman. A 16’ NRS raft can fit a total of 3 people, including boatman. A 14’ NRS raft can fit a total of 3 people, including boatman.
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What does an oar raft set up look like?Here are the different configurations: 18 foot raft 16 foot raft 14 foot raft
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What are the differences between oarlocks, pin and clips and oar rights?"Oar Rights are an oar stopper that keep the angle of the oar length and blade set perfectly at all times, yet allow the rower to draw the oars into the raft, or pull the oars out of hydraulics. Oar Stops allow more oar movement, enabling the rower to feather the oars, draw the oars into the raft, or pull the oars out of hydraulics. Pins and Clips keep the angle of the oar length and blade set perfectly at all times. The least flexible of the set ups.
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How do we set up our kitchen?Kitchen set up will change from camp to camp, with a few constants along the way. Looking for flat areas is always a good start. Your dish table should be set up close to the water (be sure to look for the high water line so your table does not get swept away!) You will have a prep table and a cooking table. You will also want to set up a hand wash system close to the kitchen. When setting up the blaster, make sure that it is out of the way of foot traffic, and VERY stable! Also make sure your cooking table is stable too. Boiling water on unstable platforms is a huge safety hazard. Here is a typical kitchen set up:
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How does Ceiba pack the food and coolers?We use 20 mil ammo cans each day that will hold all your dry goods for breakfast and dinner. Once emptied, the ammo can becomes the trashcan for the day. We also use larger volume side boxes for snacks, breakfast, overflow and resupply. We often have a meat, dairy, lunch and veggie cooler. The number of coolers your group has will determine how we pack.
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What kind of ice/cooler system does Ceiba use?We use solid block ice, that combined with our Canyon Coolers and good cooler management skills, will often keep ice for the duration of your trip. The cost of ice is included with your food pack.
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What is cooler management?Essentially cooler management is crucial to the survival of your food and ice! Be prepared when gathering specific ingredients out of a cooler for a meal to ensure a quick and efficient process. Keep the lid opened for a minimum amount of time. Ceiba coolers are self-draining through several small holes in the drain plug. However, sometimes this small hole gets clogged with debris and coolers should be monitored for standing water. Standing water is bad and should be drained! Consolidate the food into fewer coolers as you go down stream. Use up your produce, as it gets ripe and be sure to not leave rotten produce in the cooler.
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Will I have ice and fresh food all the way through the trip?With good cooler management, the ice should last the duration of your trip. However, the daily amount of fresh food will decrease the further you get downstream, but you will still be able to have fresh food all the way to the end. Once again paying attention to the condition fruits and veggies are in is crucial. We plan your menu based on the longevity of food items.
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Will we be able to recycle on the trip like we do at home?Absolutely! Ceiba is vigilant about recycling everything possible. We typically provide about a dozen rice bags for each trip. You can initially store your canned beverages in them and then turn them into recycling bags. Each bag holds about 48 12oz. cans. We accept plastics #1-7, cardboard, tin, and aluminum. We ask that you crush, rinse and sort everything by type before placing it in the recycling rice bags. Glass can also be recycled, but should be rinsed and stored in an empty food box.
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What about composting?Give us a call to discuss your options!
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Why do I have to wash my hands so much?Being in large groups in the wilderness, over extended periods of time, can lend to germs being spread very easily. It is important to wash hands after using the toilet and before each meal in order to prevent germs from spreading. Bugs can spread like rapid fire on a river trip if people are careless about washing hands. Washing hands thoroughly and often is crucial for a healthy river trip.
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How does the hand wash system work?Ceiba’s hand wash system consists of 2 hand-wash set ups that consolidate into one unit. Each unit has two buckets, one for clean water and one for dirty water. There is a hose and pump that attaches to the outside of each bucket and is supplied with hand soap. You will want to set up one hand wash near the toilet and the other near the kitchen.
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How does the toilet system work?Once you have arrived at camp and unloaded the boats, one of your first priorities should be setting up the toilet. Often times, the best toilet spot is also a great spot for a camp. So, make sure to let folks know that toilet set-up takes precedence over sleep spots. You should try to find a spot that is close to the river, secluded, and has a beautiful view! You will have two 20-mil ammo cans: one is the yellow porto box, which comes equipped with the seat, toilet paper, hand soap, cleaning supplies and powdered bleach. The second 20-mil is the red “Poop” can. Remove the lid from the yellow box and place the seat on top of the red ammo can. Make sure the poop can is level and stable! There is also an aluminum riser that fits between the can and the seat to be utilized when the can begins to fill up after a couple of days of use. Besides several other empty poop cans, you will also have an additional box for toilet supplies and toilet paper resupply.
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Is the water from the river safe to drink?Yes, once it is filtered & treated.
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What kind of water filtration does Ceiba offer?We offer two different types of water filters: Expedition Katadyn Pump (a hand pump for large volumes of water that is able to be used in harsh environments). Vital Electric water pump (an electric pump that is simple to operate, maintain and repair in the field). Settled water (settling the night before is a good idea!) will extend the life of the water filter and make water-pumping time way more efficient. After filtering, the NPS currently recommends adding 2 drops of chlorine per gallon of water. Leave the lid of the water jug open for about 15-20 minutes to allow the chlorine to off gas.
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How much water should I drink?Typically we recommend drinking about a gallon a day in the really hot seasons. Generally you want to be urinating six to seven times daily. We also recommend eating well to keep a healthy balance between salt and water intake. Drinking plenty of water and eating salty foods will keep everyone hydrated and happy!
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What if we have an accident/medical emergency and need a helicopter evacuation?The taxpayer covers the costs of an inner canyon helicopter rescue, however ground transport and supporting commercial aero medical transportation is the financial responsibility of the patient. The Trip Leader/permittee will be responsible for the cost if the passenger is unable to pay.
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What's in the First Aid Kits Ceiba provides?Here is a complete list of what is included in the Major and Minor First Aid kits:
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What type of emergency communication devices does Ceiba rent?We rent satellite phones and texting devices: The sat phones are Global Star (GSP-1600) that use the Inmarsat system. They have 3.75 hours of talk time, 19 hours of stand by, and come with an extra battery. Charges are $2.00 per minute for satellite phone airtime. We also rent Garmin inReach devices for 2-way texting. Charges are $0.50 per text for the inReach device. Both systems have been tested thoroughly in the deepest sections of Grand Canyon.
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Why do I need a communication device?Sat phones and inReach devices are not required by the NPS (or Ceiba) but are strongly recommended. Hopefully you will never have to use the device for emergencies. But, if by chance you do need it, we can guarantee you will be glad you have it. At certain places it may not feel like Grand Canyon is backcountry, but overall the river is a backcountry expedition. We also recommend communication devices during the monsoon in case Diamond Creek flashfloods. That way, you may contact Ceiba to arrange an alternate take out if the rains have affected your initial take out plan. Having a communication device is just one more way to be prepared for anything that floats your way. As the saying goes ‘Better to be safe than sorry!’
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What type of PFD do I need?U.S. Coast Guard approved PFD Type I, III or V
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Should I interact with other trips?Definitely! We recommend talking with all commercial and private groups that you see on the water. Commercial boat people are human too. They have a good understanding of the river, the camps, the great hikes, and are often willing to pass on that knowledge. Commercial boat people can be an excellent resource, especially if you are flexible and friendly. Sharing the adventures and beauty of Grand Canyon while being friendly and flexible will only add to the success of your trip. Not to mention the amount of river karma that will float your way! Good communication is the key to victory on a Grand Canyon trip.
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What if I want a certain camp?It is great to have a plan, but it is even better to be open to change, understanding that each day is a dynamic situation. Communication with other trips is key. Many times, not getting the camp you planned on can provide you with the opportunity to experience different camps and hikes in Grand Canyon. Plus, didn’t we all go to kindergarten where we learned to share so nicely?
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What are some good places to hike?There are innumerable places to hike. We recommend using river & hiking guides as a resource. Our friend Tyler Williams has put together one of the best Grand Canyon Hiking guide books out there. We also carry several different guides here at Ceiba. In addition, finding good hiking spots is another great opportunity to chat with other folks on the river. Or, give us a call at Ceiba prior to your trip and we’d be happy to share a few of our favorite places with you.
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Will the fluctuating water levels affect our parking at camp or during long hikes?For sure!!!!!! Water levels will fluctuate throughout your trip, unless there is the occasional constant research flow. Depending on the camp, the water will rise or lower as the night progresses. Boat management before going to sleep is crucial so you don’t have to worry about it throughout the night. Always make sure your boats are tied securely to a rock or tree. Sand anchors are not permanent overnight anchors. A tide chart on your trip is an effective tool when trying to understand the water levels. Link to simple tide chart. Link to detailed tide chart.
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Is there information to help us escape the brutal sun in the summer?Here is the Boatman's Almanac: A compilation of monthly sunrise & sunset times for campsites & cool places in the Grand Canyon.
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What will the weather be like?https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=36.105&lon=-112.094&unit=0&lg=english&FcstType=text&TextType=2
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What details should we be aware of if stopping at Phantom Ranch?Phantom Ranch can be an interesting and useful stop along your trip through Grand Canyon. Bright Angel Creek is the tributary and Mary Colter, Grand Canyon’s most noted architect, designed the small assortments of structures dotted along the creek. Most people head straight for the Canteen where they serve cold beer, lemonade, sunscreen, and do take credit cards! This is also a great place to send out postcards to family and friends that couldn’t make it on the trip. Each card gets a “Mailed by mule from the bottom of Grand Canyon” stamp. Note: As of 2019, there is no pay-phone at Phantom Ranch anymore. Canteen Hours of Operation: Open to the public 8:00am to 4:00pm and 8:00pm to 10:00pm (April 1 – October 31) Open to the public 8:30am to 4:00pm and 8:00pm to 10:00pm (Nov. 1 – March 31)
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Do I need a fishing license and where can I get one?Yes, a fishing license is required. You can get one at: AZ Game & Fish online license sale Marble Canyon Lodge (Marble Canyon, AZ) 928.355.2275 Babbit Fly Fishing (Flagstaff, AZ) 928.779.3253
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How many and what kind of fish can I catch?There is no limit on sport fish species, which includes all species of bass (including sunfish and stripers), all species of catfish, all species of trout, and walleye. Learn more about native fish in Grand Canyon National Park There are five species of protected native fish found in the park today. They are off limits to fishermen. Here are a few helpful tips when fishing on your trip: Cut barbs off hooks Never handle fish unless your hands are wet If you are going to clean and eat the fish you catch be sure to kill the fish ASAP!
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Is it feasible for me to bring a CPAP machine?Yes, with some solid planning. A lot to consider, so give us a call to discuss! 928.527.0171
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Go to our FAQ pageGo to our FAQ page at: https://www.ceibaadventures.com/faq
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Where should I take out?Both Diamond Creek and Pearce Ferry are the 2 take-out options. Each site has its pros and cons, and we are happy to discuss the options with you. Just give us a call or send an email.
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What time should I take out?Typically we suggest 10:00 am, but we are happy to work with whatever works best for your group. During the monsoon months of July, August and September, we recommend the earlier the better! From March 15th to November 1st, you are not allowed to de-rig at Diamond Creek between 7:00 am and 10:00 am. This time is allotted for the Hualapai River Runners to rig and launch their trips at Diamond Creek.
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What are take-out roads like?The Diamond Creek road is a very bumpy, rocky, dirt road that takes approximately one hour to drive. During heavy rains it can become washed out. The Pearce Ferry take-out is straightforward but far (goes through Kingman, roughly 4.5 hours from Flagstaff).
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What are Hualapai fees?The Hualapai Diamond Creek Take Out Permit Fees: The Diamond Creek take out is on the Hualapai Reservation. The Hualapai Indians charge a fee per person and per vehicle to use the access road to the river. We can calculate this fee into your invoice, and take care of the charges from our end. If the Hualapai send you any notices showing that you still owe fees, we suggest you call 928-769-2636 and let them know that Ceiba is taking care of the fees for your group. The Hualapai River Access Permit: A separate optional fee that is not associated with your take out at Diamond Creek. It is an access fee that allows for sightseeing and or camping on Hualapai Tribal lands (from RM 165 to 278 on river left) during the duration of your river trip. Ceiba does not get involved with this fee at all. It is strictly your trip leader's choice as to whether or not to pay it. You can contact the Hualapai Game & Fish department at 928-769-2227 or hualapai.rafting@hualapai-nsn.gov There are discussion groups to help on your decision at the Grand Canyon Private Boaters and Grand Canyon Rafting Facebook pages.
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When is the trip over?When the vehicles with all the equipment returns to Flagstaff and you retrieve all your personal gear.
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